I think that pop, and to some extent rock, are like sport and fashion industry in that they're about the exuberance of youth. That's the sort of subliminal ideology.
My heroes are people like Picasso and Miro and people who at last really reach something in their old age, which they absolutely couldn't ever have done in their youth.
There are singers that I have enjoyed, from Nina Simone and Ray Charles onward. But the music that made music the number one thing for me as a youth was jazz.
The things that I draw on, and the world that I feel part of, aren't particularly youth culture.
I think the people who did well, or are happy, in a youth industry, they define themselves out of the business after a decade or so.
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