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  • We don't like to use the phrase "state security" in the United States because it reminds us of all the bad regimes. But it's a key concept, because when these officials are out on TV, they're not talking about what's good for you. They're not talking about what's good for business. They're not talking about what's good for society. They're talking about the protection and perpetuation of a national state system.

    Interview with Katrina vanden Heuvel and Stephen F. Cohen, www.thenation.com. October 28, 2014.
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