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  • But the question is - are we deporting a couple hundred people for show or are we actually making a serious effort to remove everybody who's got a final order of removal? When I say enforcement theater, what I mean is a kind of pretend enforcement.

    "A Closer Look At Obama Administration's Controversial Deportation Plans". "All Things Considered" with Michel Martin, www.npr.org. December 26, 2015.
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